Youngster will be replaced, no matter what they study
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I think the problem is if you keep dwelling on it, trying to weight the cost benefit analysis and all that, life is going to be hard. Gets even harder when U confuse the tangible with the intangible.
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
How about.. just roll over and die. Problem solved.
lol
When you roll over and die, your family will take over the troubles/matters from you.Unless, you don't care about your family.
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Originally posted by dotaro:
When you roll over and die, your family will take over the troubles/matters from you.Unless, you don't care about your family.
Well, cause I see so much negative pessimist cynical outlook.. I thought that would be the easy way out for you.
Just suggesting.
But obviously.. u care about your family. So how now ?
Dilemma eh.
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
Well, cause I see so much negative pessimist cynical outlook.. I thought that would be the easy way out for you.
Just suggesting.
But obviously.. u care about your family. So how now ?
Dilemma eh.
Nah, no dilemma. don't worry about me. I saw through it sometime ago. I'm worried about you gents and ladies though.It's very simple, everything is about money. If you gents/ladies don't something about it, you will end up very hard.
Of course, unless you have loving, well-to-do family, that's anothe matter.
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Originally posted by dotaro:
Study business related, sorry, too common, will be replaced by your Pinoy friends, they speak english better than you.
They speak better english? Fax pronouced as fu(k, box said as buck. Don't mind me sidetrack abit. This one i cannot agree on it. And on the whole, their grammar sucks. I know, coz i work with one.
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Originally posted by loki_chaos:
They speak better english? Fax pronouced as fu(k, box said as buck. Don't mind me sidetrack abit. This one i cannot agree on it. And on the whole, their grammar sucks. I know, coz i work with one.
Well, judging by the sheer numbers of your Pinoy friends in Singapore, managers and HR of companies in S'pore don't agree with you.
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Of course. working with one doesn't mean all of them are like that, don't get me wrong. Just like singaporeans, most of us use singlish, but there's a minor of us who can use english language in a fluent way.
Anyway, I'll still prefer them to be in plain t-shirt and shorts, and hang around school gates during lunch times which just happen to be school dismissal.
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Originally posted by dotaro:
If you have been exposed to the work environment out there in S'pore, you will know I'm not paranoid, but merely stating the facts.right
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Originally posted by dotaro:
completely agree...easy to say go for part-time study and all that, but to actually go through it, it's never easy.Worst, once you grad with your cert/deg/mast, you found out that it didnt help much in increasing your salary, worst still, employers find you expensive, replace you.
So, when will you be replaced, Singaporean?
When I got my bba, and my ex manager know, her attitude towards me changed. Not to good, but to worst. And my promotion in fact was almost zero. Worst, she asked one junior to went to KL to teach our KL colleagues instead of me! That is the past.Agreed with you again.
When you get your newly degree cert, can you move up the ladder? Provided you move out to get a new higher salary. But then, how old are you already?
Employers will not want his/her staff to outbeat him/her.
If employers feel the threat, you are doomed on your working life.
No more promotion, no more incentives for you.
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Originally posted by dotaro:
If you're not too concerned about your own/family financial status, then it's perfectly ok to obtain a degree to gain extra knowledge, treat it as lifelong investment.I'm not sure who doesn't expect monetary returns from their investment(time/money) in a degree.
I studied for 2 main thing: Get more salary and got promoted.
But in reality, it is difficult if (majority) your empoyers feel a threat.
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Originally posted by loki_chaos:
Of course. working with one doesn't mean all of them are like that, don't get me wrong. Just like singaporeans, most of us use singlish, but there's a minor of us who can use english language in a fluent way.
Anyway, I'll still prefer them to be in plain t-shirt and shorts, and hang around school gates during lunch times which just happen to be school dismissal.
Seriously speaking Singaporeans don't exactly have the best method of management. Most Singaporeans think they can use the carrot and stick to punish those who don't perform. However I see a lot of Singaporeans who are seconded overseas struggle because they don't know how to manoevre themself politically to get support from the strong people in the office, instead most Singaporean managers end up isolating themselves by using the stick to punish underperformers.Perhaps their way work well in Singapore but when they go to other country, they struggle a lot because cannot adapt to the culture. Must do it their way instead of listening to the locals.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
When I got my bba, and my ex manager know, her attitude towards me changed. Not to good, but to worst. And my promotion in fact was almost zero. Worst, she asked one junior to went to KL to teach our KL colleagues instead of me! That is the past.Agreed with you again.
When you get your newly degree cert, can you move up the ladder? Provided you move out to get a new higher salary. But then, how old are you already?
Employers will not want his/her staff to outbeat him/her.
If employers feel the threat, you are doomed on your working life.
No more promotion, no more incentives for you.
For me, I took on a lower salaried job for several years so I could qualify to obtain a BTO application. After I secured the flat, I immediately jumped ship to a much higher one, because if I started at the higher paying one, HDB will never allow me to participate in their BTO lucky draw.
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Originally posted by ditzy:
For me, I took on a lower salaried job for several years so I could qualify to obtain a BTO application. After I secured the flat, I immediately jumped ship to a much higher one, because if I started at the higher paying one, HDB will never allow me to participate in their BTO lucky draw.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Wow...so you have a new bto flat? Any pics to show in renotalk forum?yeah, after they finish building it 3 years later, I might show you.
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Originally posted by ditzy:
yeah, after they finish building it 3 years later, I might show you.
Ok ok I will wait. How much you pay for BTO flats? Is it expensive than those normal flats? BTO means flooring, tiles etc..already done nicely for you? -
Originally posted by ditzy:
For me, I took on a lower salaried job for several years so I could qualify to obtain a BTO application. After I secured the flat, I immediately jumped ship to a much higher one, because if I started at the higher paying one, HDB will never allow me to participate in their BTO lucky draw.
Yes, after a few years, sell the half a million dollar flat to some sucker willing to pay for it.
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simple way, go overseas and be their foreign talent. but wait, will foreign companies want me if i have to serve 10 ICTS . Means we have to w8 till like almost 40 to be foreign talents, too good to be true
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Ok ok I will wait. How much you pay for BTO flats? Is it expensive than those normal flats? BTO means flooring, tiles etc..already done nicely for you?I am paying under $250k. Its 4 room, and they got the option for flooring and all that nonsense, I took it all.Location, not in the west, and not in the south.
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Originally posted by ditzy:
I am paying under $250k. Its 4 room, and they got the option for flooring and all that nonsense, I took it all.Location, not in the west, and not in the south.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
So is central area...Yeah, when I appliied for pinnicle@duxton, it was that price.
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Originally posted by Deino:
right
Well, I guess you have to see the coffin before you tear.Hopefully by the time you're out there working, things will be rosier for you than now....
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Originally posted by ditzy:
Yeah, when I appliied for pinnicle@duxton, it was that price.
Wow...prime area.For the next generation, will they be able to buy one at the prime area? Even though they graduate or only have poly dip? Salary is indeed being push down.