Confusing times for a confused PAP leadership
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Some Singaporeans will enjoy their promised swiss way of living after the elections. That is if they finally decided they will be quitters.
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Originally posted by Fcukpap:
we are all aware that the current strength of oppositions are on a weak level. Symptoms of strong opposition would give a feeling of rising dominance which we have yet felt that; and before that happens, we would also sense the existing govt take tough measures against them...to date, it is far from alert levels...
i m saying this to state the facts of the situation. My earnest advice to strengthen oppositions is not within, but from without. As i have mentioned many times, since Sg is a highly dependent on external powers and markets, that indicates that the determinant is an external party formed with powerful alliances that could affect the markets and inevitably the whole island. That also implies that we would also be vulnerable to such external powers that could wrought many Sg lives beyond our control.
The internal dissensions would act as a catalyst to expedite the weakening of the existing govt with the dominance of external powers and threats - with that, victory of oppositions would then be assured.
What make you so sure there is external forces that only exist in opposition? Why not the other way round. Oppositions haven't the ability to rule yet so where is the threat?
Aren't Singapore feel like part of PRC? What's the intent?
Has the Great Singapore Sale started?
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The topic is not about external forces. Articles highlighting the so called disunity in PAP.
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it could be...but external powers and alliances would be safer than on home grounds, which is very well under controlled by existing govt..
of course that would again be dependent on how well existing party could plan ahead and span its controls through variety of means - orthodox and unorthodox ways....
internal oppositions could also grow but with much sabotages on home grounds whilst external powers could grow uninterruptedly...
many successful revolutionaries are done from without and coincide with increasing internal dissensions and weakening governments...currently this has not happened yet..
external + internal vs mere internal is more assured way of winning the battle
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
What make you so sure there is external forces that only exist in opposition? Why not the other way round. Oppositions haven't the ability to rule yet so where is the threat?
Aren't Singapore feel like part of PRC? What's the intent?
Has the Great Singapore Sale started?
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Originally posted by Fcukpap:
it could be...but external powers and alliances would be safer than on home grounds, which is very well under controlled by existing govt..
of course that would again be dependent on how well existing party could plan ahead and span its controls through variety of means - orthodox and unorthodox ways....
internal oppositions could also grow but with much sabotages on home grounds whilst external powers could grow uninterruptedly...
many successful revolutionaries are done from without and coincide with increasing internal dissensions and weakening governments...currently this has not happened yet..
external + internal vs mere internal is more assured way of winning the battle
Why controls? It the people choice and have to respect the choice.
At present isn't there is always a yes when PRC ask for. Hmmm.... let me see; PRC not an external forces; is the Lee Imperial Forces is it?
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yes....that is the first dawn of chance for oppositions...
but we are also concerned on how fast that day would come...the assured way is concurrent establishment of external alliances now....that would speed up the death of iron rule
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Originally posted by Fcukpap:
yes....that is the first dawn of chance for oppositions...
but we are also concerned on how fast that day would come...the assured way is concurrent establishment of external alliances now....that would speed up the death of iron rule
Such an analogy that the oppositions need foreign elements can only be conjured. It's just an imaginary scenario.
Hasn't PRC overwhelm Sg in the last few years. How much more before the islands is in foreigners' hands, another term perhaps?
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what about disunities within oppositions besides considering disunities within PAP?
rising oppositions may also mean rising conflicts and disunities within oppositions especially where some vie for prominence and power....
we could all be complaining about existing rule..but we could at the same time debate profusely among ourselves where some may try to gain prominence in discussion to the stage of anger and vulgarities..may be a good example..
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Originally posted by Fcukpap:
what about disunities within oppositions besides considering disunities within PAP?
rising oppositions may also mean rising conflicts and disunities within oppositions especially where some vie for prominence and power....
we could all be complaining about existing rule..but we could at the same time debate profusely among ourselves where some may try to gain prominence in discussion to the stage of anger and vulgarities..may be a good example..
Remember oppositions definitely is not united because they aren't one. Each have their own ideology and guidelines. To think them as a homogenous group is a fantasy.
At present our ruling is not a coalition it's a one party rule.
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imaginary scenarios are thinking-of-the-box tool or to stay outside to see objectively how the situation is and could be...
it is useful gauge to ensure all risks are covered to assure the battle against existing rule is on stronger foundations...
just offering an opinion....
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Originally posted by Fcukpap:
imaginary scenarios are thinking-of-the-box tool or to stay outside to see objectively how the situation is and could be...
it is useful gauge to ensure all risks are covered to assure the battle against existing rule is on stronger foundations...
just offering an opinion....
When you think too much out of a box it become an obession with fantasy....
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Let's just focus on the disunity among the ministers in PAP. This is enough to cause problems. Oppositions are in no position to cause any problem to us now as they are not the ruling party.
With regard to the article, it is imperative that PAP ministers come together put forth their suggestions, ideas, solutions, policies and make it as one voice so as not to confuse the public. They are to put the interest of the public first on the list to discuss, create policies and so on to better the life of the people who feed them. Without us, there is no PAP.
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r we against the existing rule or not?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Let's just focus on the disunity among the ministers in PAP. This is enough to cause problems. Oppositions are in no position to cause any problem to us now as they are not the ruling party.
With regard to the article, it is imperative that PAP ministers come together put forth their suggestions, ideas, solutions, policies and make it as one voice so as not to confuse the public. They are to put the interest of the public first on the list to discuss, create policies and so on to better the life of the people who feed them. Without us, there is no PAP.
True. It is a BIG problem. Their confusion is losing them votes indeed. How can you trust an organisation that doesnt know where they are heading for. =X
And Singaporeans ain't stupid. Our memory isn't that poor. -
Originally posted by Fcukpap:
r we against the existing rule or not?
That's your choice. I know where I stand.
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
True. It is a BIG problem. Their confusion is losing them votes indeed. How can you trust an organisation that doesnt know where they are heading for. =X
And Singaporeans ain't stupid. Our memory isn't that poor.
Precisely. They are paid so much $$$$, we expect quality from them. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Precisely. They are paid so much $$$$, we expect quality from them.We are not getting what we expect. Low quality products passing off as expensive luxury goods.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
We are not getting what we expect. Low quality products passing off as expensive luxury goods.
Pay so much - probably we are given imitation goods.How come nobody do QC?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Pay so much - probably we are given imitation goods.How come nobody do QC?
Not enough oppositions where got QC?
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
Not enough oppositions where got QC?
Hope we will see more oppositions being voted in in the next election. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Hope we will see more oppositions being voted in in the next election.Hopefully.