Cool it boyz .
This thread is very interesting for new and old drivers to learn something new each day .
This round we are talking Mentallity , both Hirers and Reliefs Mentallity .
Well done , we found some good points presented here .
Just to let you know .
My that coffee shop kaki , drove one day from 8pm to 4am , closed shop , throw key and sayonara to the $50 hirer .
Mind you , he is a very experience driver , and he also felt it is impossible to drive til 8am , for what drive to 8am ?
Originally posted by Poolman:Just to let you know .
My that coffee shop kaki , drove one day from 8pm to 4am , closed shop , throw key and sayonara to the $50 hirer .
Mind you , he is a very experience driver , and he also felt it is impossible to drive til 8am , for what drive to 8am ?
Yes, I agree. Point is also that midnite shift have certain patterns for sleep. Best is to sleep before the sun comes up, because when it does, it usually takes a little longer to sleep easily unless of course super tired.
I find many ppl have this same pattern, must sleep before 6.30 to 7, if not, the next timing will be at 8.30 - 9am. Miss that then it comes between 11-12 noon.
I think the body naturally reacts easily in darkness for sleep as opposed to daylight.
Limo line (pvte) is easier, can sleep in parts, every time no job can catch 40 winks until the next job. So like that even if got midnite or 2am arrival/departure, your body already programmed to rest in bits to make up the daily 8 hours. But TD cannot do that, your jobs depend entirely on you finding them, be it through bookings or street hire. You gotta get proper rest before starting.
Originally posted by JoeRaj:I think before we start talking about my command of English, pls re-read what you had posted and the thread in general and see what it means.
If we not talking about a relief taking over then what are talking about? CDG got 2 hirers now? Cab park there means what? Pray tell? For a passer-by to take over?
Or park there because hirer want terms that relief has to follow? Since when will a parked cab come to rot?
We already had many threads about late night shifts. Once I asked for opinions about a 11pm to 6 pm one @ $25. After much discussion, I agreed with many posters that hirer while not wrong is trying to squeeze every single bit. Of course midnight can earn, but at what price and effort? Why not offer 6pm to 12 midnight at $25, as you say 6pm to midnight only got 25% not 50%. Offer that la.
Yes forum is about opinions, you can offer yours, but expect others to disagree. If you made a mistake, just admit it, yeah I thought it was a good idea, but after consideration maybe not such a good idea.
Go ask any TD, midnight shift means what? From 5 or 6 pm to 12 midnight, you must go earn your rent, diesel and minimum amount, after 12, it's all bonus, except Fri and Sat, after 12 can cari makan.
Talking about 8pm. My friend has an offer at that time for 20 days. 8pm to 6am, he ask me what to offer, I said anywhere from $35-40, if you get $30 better still, but $35 is about right. Why because no point extending to 8am, you will have stay awake for 12 hours at night, not good on the body.
Your offer is genuinely what you believed, but it's also flawed when you consider all the factors in. If you cannot accept that, then no point in explaining further, you're entitled to your views, we are entitled to offer differing ones in turn.
soon, more hirer will end up like me, rather earn lesser, rather let park the cab there and let it rot also shiok.
You driving for how many years ah?
Rot? You drive 12-15 hours expect relief to rot? Lets see what happen after 3-4 years, who will rot?
U are dam good Bro, even mastered our Chinese art of Tai Chi? Do u really need to do that?
All u need to do is to clarify how my sentence above about "letting my cab rot" can be twisted until I am deemed to say "let the relief rot"?
Do u really have to write such a long list of i dunno what just to side track the subject? Every is out of point that I am contending with.
Alternatively, all it's needed is just said u misread, is that too difficult to do?
U think forummers here stupid is it? throw so much smoke screen.
Originally posted by Onewaytransfer:
You sure have a short memory..
(What's wrong with 8 to 8? It consist of 6 hours of 25% surcharge with plenty of booking calls and 6 hours of 50% surcharge. To most ppl, midnight cannot get pax. i repeat - most but not all. I tried driving day last week and gosh, really dunno where to go. cos I am not familar, so same goes with ppl who are familar with driving night. what u guys think if that $50 for 8pm to 8am comes with a guaranteed minimum $100 earning between midnight to 6, interested?)
I'm replying to your disagreement by YOURSELF...
From TS post until you reply my post...I never even say anything on your post.
Why 5-5 is a norm although not by law, go and ask those senior.
To drive from daylight to darkness is easy as ABC, but to drive from darkness to daylight for 365 days, you think is normal?
Anyway, nobody provoke you, look at your own reply to any forummers here, who started first, and who put up the first vogue word?
What a asshole! First u say I got mental problem, Then u say I got no friends. Now u saying I got short memory!
replying to your disagreement by YOURSELF... What did I disagree? are u refering to this? What's wrong with 8 to 8?
Another Joeraj? Read things dun just read one word and just to conclusion la. By saying that, I mean there is NOTHING WRONG with the 8-8 shift. So please understand first before u agree with me to disagree.
Learn to understand English clearly first before u want to be slippery.
btw, what did I say that is vogue? did I say something fashionable?
First all, this is a forum, not a classroom, not need to highlight in blue or red.
You want respect, give respect? Why not write all in CAPS, better way to gain attention.
No need to explain further, either you don't understand even what your writing or trying to pin the blame for others, when it was you who started comments chiding reliefs for not agreeing with hirers demands or burdens.
Just look at your second sentence ; relief dun want to bear burden...
And then before your classic red lined sentence: hirer eveything have to bear...suka suka let relief throw key, is that fair?
Follow by soon all hirer will be like me blah blah....rather let park the cab there, let it rot also shiok...
So you still deny you were only talking about a cab here, not a relief. Despite inferring and refering to it prior to it, about relief's demands.
Any layman will understand from your sentence: that unless reliefs accept hirers terms and conditions, hirers will be like you, not wanting to give reliefs a cab to drive, prefering to park the cab, letting reliefs suffer (or rot) until they give in.
You don't have to spefically say 'all reliefs should rot', you already infered to it very clearly by saying hirers shouldn't have to share 50-50 with relief, because hirers already have a burden and it's not fair of relief to demand things equally.
Then you go on to suggest hirers should be like you in adopting this policy. By doing so, what would be the logical explanation? - That unless reliefs accept the terms, hirers should earn less by parking the vehicle, and enjoy watching reliefs struggle to find a cab. How do I know? Because when you say rot followed by shiok, who are you referring to? The cab? Come one la - which hirer watch their own cab rot, is shiok?
Or let the cab be there, reliefs left to rot and hirers enjoy seeing them do (shiok).
Since you like to mark in red and blue, go ask any English schoolteacher, lawyer doctor (someone very good in English), who they think you're inferring to when they read your post?
And no, forummers here are not stupid, maybe just 1 or 2. They also can see very clearly what you're referring to, just like I did.
Originally posted by JoeRaj:First all, this is a forum, not a classroom, not need to highlight in blue or red.
You want respect, give respect? Why not write all in CAPS, better way to gain attention.
No need to explain further, either you don't understand even what your writing or trying to pin the blame for others, when it was you who started comments chiding reliefs for not agreeing with hirers demands or burdens.
Just look at your second sentence ; relief dun want to bear burden...
And then before your classic red lined sentence: hirer eveything have to bear...suka suka let relief throw key, is that fair?
Follow by soon all hirer will be like me blah blah....rather let park the cab there, let it rot also shiok...
So you still deny you were only talking about a cab here, not a relief. Despite inferring and refering to it prior to it, about relief's demands.
Any layman will understand from your sentence: that unless reliefs accept hirers terms and conditions, hirers will be like you, not wanting to give reliefs a cab to drive, prefering to park the cab, letting reliefs suffer (or rot) until they give in.
You don't have to spefically say 'all reliefs should rot', you already infered to it very clearly by saying hirers shouldn't have to share 50-50 with relief, because hirers already have a burden and it's not fair of relief to demand things equally.
Then you go on to suggest hirers should be like you in adopting this policy. By doing so, what would be the logical explanation? - That unless reliefs accept the terms, hirers should earn less by parking the vehicle, and enjoy watching reliefs struggle to find a cab. How do I know? Because when you say rot followed by shiok, who are you referring to? The cab? Come one la - which hirer watch their own cab rot, is shiok?
Or let the cab be there, reliefs left to rot and hirers enjoy seeing them do (shiok).
Since you like to mark in red and blue, go ask any English schoolteacher, lawyer doctor (someone very good in English), who they think you're inferring to when they read your post?
And no, forummers here are not stupid, maybe just 1 or 2. They also can see very clearly what you're referring to, just like I did.
Guess no need to bother typing so much. waste band width.
It take a real man to admit his mistake and I guess I not talking to one.
trying to cover a mistake with more and more mistake.
Just another slippery guy trying to play with words or rather mincing them.
what imply? infer? refer? defer? gosh
does so many ugly exchanges imply that I am going for your life? so literaly means I commit murder? so by right I should get the death sentence? just due to your imply?
If all judges works on your theory that imply or infer or refer means actual happening, death sentence in SG break all time high.
强�夺� at it's highest level
If u like, can keep up with your smoke screen, as for me, I am done.
You like to offer your opinion on how things should be, the way you reckon it should.
Fair enough, doesn't matter, new or old everyone got a view. Some of us, old mentality also must change and follow the new, who have better ideas sometimes. Same goes for new, some things not in a position to comment because the experience not fully reach there.
But when you take a position or assume things, where experience will suggest otherwise, then expect people to disagree and respect that right to disagree.
If you want post things not wanting people to comment, then ask Poolman to lock your threads, so only your view will be there.
I find uaskforit sometimes asking silly questions, but when he asked for views about your midnight to 6 offer, what's wrong with that? You put up an offer in a forum where everyone can ask, question or discuss, what's wrong with him asking for views, be it positive or negative? This not comfort portal, if you post at comfort portal and he mention it, fair enough, he's wrong.
He never say you must stop asking for such offers, nobody says either. But generally almost all old timers here and many others would disagree or caution ppl taking up such an offer.
But no, you take it as a personal attack, rather than what we explained as a flawed or risky offer. You can do it, good for you, but many can't and shouldn't. We offered our opinions against it, but never said you were wrong or ppl should 100% reject it. If got, good for them and you.
You post and answer things based on your mentality, you assume things, but sometimes such things has been proven wrong with experience. But with your limited experience, you insist you're right and take it very personally when ppl point out the flaws. Then you push the blame everywhere but yourself.
As you said, forummers not stupid, they know exactly what things are, how things operate and what is right or wrong. You can deny, condemn and get personal, that is entirely your choice.
And who the fuck are you to say I am not a man, or I am slippery? Did I ever say anything personal against.
You behave like a spoilt child, everything must go your way, if not you cry like a baby.
Since you like to attack personally, I got a nice personal one for you. Bring you mother and your wife la, I show them whether I am a real man or not.
Originally posted by JoeRaj:Since you like to attack personally, I got a nice personal one for you. Bring you mother and your wife la, I show them whether I am a real man or not.
U mean the ability to fuck ppl's mother or wife makes u a man? Sounds more like a beast to me.
Dun blame u lah, cos u dun even know the difference.
Originally posted by Bingjames:U mean the ability to fuck ppl's mother or wife makes u a man? Sounds more like a beast to me.
Dun blame u lah, cos u dun even know the difference.
No only yours, because with you, they don't know what it is.
Originally posted by Bingjames:
If you cannot understand layman term, than I had to treat you like a beast.
KNNBCCB!!!
"Whether I got takers or not is NOYFB!"
Uncle me first time play forum, is it? People talk to you nicely, you nb jolly do likewise.
You reply without referring to forummers, I treat you talking to TS, if you CB reply to me, you are knn talking to me!
When I say you had no friend, now my correction to you, even in cyberspace, you don't have any also, you knn, I'm train in defining a person character through writing, you CB eye never stick stamp.
you CB never see I target other forummers, cause Knnbccb, they not replying to my post, CB, want to talk England, please go NUS forum, you learn much better over there.
Before Poolman lock this thread, when you are unfriendly, don't expect people to be friendly too, it take me 3 reply to really blood boil, you consider very lucky already.
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Originally posted by Onewaytransfer:
If you cannot understand layman term, than I had to treat you like a beast.
KNNBCCB!!!
"Whether I got takers or not is NOYFB!"
Uncle me first time play forum, is it? People talk to you nicely, you nb jolly do likewise.
You reply without referring to forummers, I treat you talking to TS, if you CB reply to me, you are knn talking to me!
When I say you had no friend, now my correction to you, even in cyberspace, you don't have any also, you knn, I'm train in defining a person character through writing, you CB eye never stick stamp.
you CB never see I target other forummers, cause Knnbccb, they not replying to my post, CB, want to talk England, please go NUS forum, you learn much better over there.
Before Poolman lock this thread, when you are unfriendly, don't expect people to be friendly too, it take me 3 reply to really blood boil, you consider very lucky already.
Nice
I understand better when u speak your language. Birds of a feather flock together- or rather beast I mean.
Originally posted by Bingjames:Nice
I understand better when u speak your language. Birds of a feather flock together- or rather beast I mean.
Correct..only a beast will understand my language.
Originally posted by Onewaytransfer:
If you cannot understand layman term, than I had to treat you like a beast.
KNNBCCB!!!
"Whether I got takers or not is NOYFB!"
Uncle me first time play forum, is it? People talk to you nicely, you nb jolly do likewise.
You reply without referring to forummers, I treat you talking to TS, if you CB reply to me, you are knn talking to me!
When I say you had no friend, now my correction to you, even in cyberspace, you don't have any also, you knn, I'm train in defining a person character through writing, you CB eye never stick stamp.
you CB never see I target other forummers, cause Knnbccb, they not replying to my post, CB, want to talk England, please go NUS forum, you learn much better over there.
Before Poolman lock this thread, when you are unfriendly, don't expect people to be friendly too, it take me 3 reply to really blood boil, you consider very lucky already.
Well!, u certainly dun need a PhD to chat and participate in here but at least u should need a very basic understanding of English in order to do so.
U dun even have that basic knowledge to understand what people is talking about and just jump the gun based on certain words and shoot your reply.
From the phrase "what's wrong with 8-8 shift?" u can even interprete it as I am saying I agreed that there is something wrong with this shift and as you claim, agree with my "disagreement".
And to add to that, people just cannot have his own opinion. People who disagree with you are deem to have mental attitude and has no friends. You, yourself interprete wrongly and yet got the guts to accuse people of short memory.
and when forced to the corner, your "chow ah beng" nature just appeared with all the colourful words. This only exposed your truth nature, your actual character. That's what I mean, you are more natural in expressing the words yr natural way than trying to pretend to know "England"(your own words) and want try participate in "debate" even. A monkey wearing a royal robe still looks like - a monkey.
U dun have to be a linguist to do that but at least - understand what people is saying and then reply correctly. We all can accept errors in English, but at least, you got to admit it first instead of creating alot of smoke screen trying to cover up (sounds familar) or even worst - resort to vulgarities or profanities.
Aiya, BJ and all fellow brothers, this is only a forum, no nid to get so work up lah, look at your wallet, the money is still there correct, so be cool and calm, I kenna suan so many time by chief, I also cool and calm.
Just do what you like as long as it is not against any laws, if 8pm to 8am ask for $60, so be it, you want you take, if you do not want, just ignore and move on, when I call a hirer for discussion, he said $53, I said $48, if he said, cannot, abit higher to cover, then $50 lor, if he said, now rental high, you got peak period here and there, then I said, thank you and goodbye. No nid to get angry or frustration over it.
Mods should meditate here...
Originally posted by Bingjames:Well!, u certainly dun need a PhD to chat and participate in here but at least u should need a very basic understanding of English in order to do so.
U dun even have that basic knowledge to understand what people is talking about and just jump the gun based on certain words and shoot your reply.
From the phrase "what's wrong with 8-8 shift?" u can even interprete it as I am saying I agreed that there is something wrong with this shift and as you claim, agree with my "disagreement".
And to add to that, people just cannot have his own opinion. People who disagree with you are deem to have mental attitude and has no friends. You, yourself interprete wrongly and yet got the guts to accuse people of short memory.
and when forced to the corner, your "chow ah beng" nature just appeared with all the colourful words. This only exposed your truth nature, your actual character. That's what I mean, you are more natural in expressing the words yr natural way than trying to pretend to know "England"(your own words) and want try participate in "debate" even. A monkey wearing a royal robe still looks like - a monkey.
U dun have to be a linguist to do that but at least - understand what people is saying and then reply correctly. We all can accept errors in English, but at least, you got to admit it first instead of creating alot of smoke screen trying to cover up (sounds familar) or even worst - resort to vulgarities or profanities.
So with my chow ah beng style, you can understand better?
Please do me a flavour, go and read from page 1 till now.
Did I raise anything on your post first, we post according to TS concern, everyone had their own view, including me and you..than out of sudden you reply on my post, for fun? Or doubt on my thought?
You can simply write your thought in open post like many do, but no, you choose to question me.
So I give you an answer, you don't accept, than I give you another answer, you also don't accept, who need to admit what? England? I write post still had to follow standard England, you crazy or what.
Even I put in this reply..only a beast understand my language, you still bother to reply me..who is the one pushing his luck.
You ask question, I answer, who's the one so insistent on his ground, forummers here can judge, all the correspondence is between you and me, you started the fight, be prepare for war, not asking someone to surrender, so easy, I might as well go Changi Village..
Originally posted by Poolman:warning : mind your words.used members , before we close the thread .
Alamak brother, when people cannot click, you said what also no use, sure he or she got something to say back, and as time goes buy, it become more and more out of the scope and insensible anymore.
It become more and more irrelevant to the thread, more toward personal issue, no body is right or wrong, no matter how you answer or reply, there will be reaction from the him with different reasoning.
Come on bros, remember you are just a taxi driver. Just be nice and modest . Makes everyone happy.
Yes, let discuss it over a few Tiger.