Bus service with heaviest loading
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
CTB/NWFB oso can be found quite commonly around HK.
bus operators in HK are mainly KMB, CTB, NWFB
The above operators buses operate in HK island, Kowloon, NT, Lantau island[Tung Chung, Chak Lap kok] so boy wat are you uttering?!
A measly little knowledge is not to be shown off to... -
Southern district train stations are under construction linking them to Admiralty station completed late 2014
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Basically MTR buses serve less than 5% of HK... while KMB covers every INCH of HK. In fact, i can even bet wif u tat the number of svc KMB has is even more than the number of svc SBS+SMRT+CTB+NWFB has.
KMB operates 395 svc in Hong Kong, which is < # of svc sbs + smrt + ctb + nwfb.
Though KMB covers ALMOST every inch of HK, it doesnt serve the southern district of HK Island.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Eh... The East Rail MTR buses are operated by KMB.
KMB does not operate HK Island, those are Cross Harbour Rts.
He nvr mentioned "ERL MTR buses are operated by MTR". He DIDNT.
KMB does not operate HK Island svc, but its services DO cover HK island.
The owner of K16 is KCR (before merger with MTR), and it outsourced the svc to KMB to operate. So, KCR (and subsequently MTR) holds the license of K16.
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74..Peak hours /After School hours and Off Peak hours.
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Originally posted by Gzeratsg:
He nvr mentioned "ERL MTR buses are operated by MTR". He DIDNT.
KMB does not operate HK Island svc, but its services DO cover HK island.
The owner of K16 is KCR (before merger with MTR), and it outsourced the svc to KMB to operate. So, KCR (and subsequently MTR) holds the license of K16.
North Dist was mentioned... Those are the ERL feeders.They're not considered Island Svs, they're cross harbour svs. Who on earth would want to spend HK$20 to travel within Islands?
The ERL feeders are operated by KMB to enjoy some rebates which franchised operators get
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Originally posted by Gzeratsg:
KMB operates 395 svc in Hong Kong, which is < # of svc sbs + smrt + ctb + nwfb.
Though KMB covers ALMOST every inch of HK, it doesnt serve the southern district of HK Island.
395 svs... But overall ridership has even been overtaken by SBST. -
Seriously?! hmmm if i ve the Senior management email wic i would like to have, i can write... Hmmm must be buddy buddy with Mark Chua liao so that i can ask him to write in for me to: 1. Have all citaros REMOVED from sv16 and put in ALL JB MKIIIs 2. upgrade 1st 2 buses of sv196e to DDs so that i would not get squashed 3. change sv36 fleet to partial Scanias[not Citaros] and MKIIIs 4. Remove the 4 Scanias from 147 n put one of them to 163 so that the 163 DD go to 147 5. CUT 113 fleet to 5 buses n improve freq for sv62 for OFF PEAK 6. 113 fleet to be downgraded to Scania batch 2 Euro IV to have more standing space so that there will be no more complaints/requests to upgrade 113 to DD fleet due to capacity issues. That should be my wishlist... Hope someone is listening... ACx do you know how many people are taking 113? 113 with 7 buses frequency already very cui. 5 buses , cant imagine. and btw, what do you mean by cutting fleet and there'll be no complaints? it should be adding more buses so that there will be no complaints.. and btw, if you are not a frequent commuter of 113, dont suggest fleet cut. It is essential for people living in lorong ah soo area.
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
Seriously?! hmmm if i ve the Senior management email wic i would like to have, i can write…
Hmmm must be buddy buddy with Mark Chua liao so that i can ask him to write in for me to:
1. Have all citaros REMOVED from sv16 and put in ALL JB MKIIIs
2. upgrade 1st 2 buses of sv196e to DDs so that i would not get squashed
3. change sv36 fleet to partial Scanias[not Citaros] and MKIIIs
4. Remove the 4 Scanias from 147 n put one of them to 163 so that the 163 DD go to 147
5. CUT 113 fleet to 5 buses n improve freq for sv62 for OFF PEAK
6. 113 fleet to be downgraded to Scania batch 2 Euro IV to have more standing space so that there will be no more complaints/requests to upgrade 113 to DD fleet due to capacity issues.
That should be my wishlist…
Hope someone is listening…ACx
do you know how many people are taking 113? 113 with 7 buses frequency already very cui. 5 buses , cant imagine.
and btw, what do you mean by cutting fleet and there’ll be no complaints? it should be adding more buses so that there will be no complaints..
and btw, if you are not a frequent commuter of 113, dont suggest fleet cut. It is essential for people living in lorong ah soo area.Kids. I dun wish to feed the trolls, but there's some facts that has to be mentioned.
1) JB MKIII are due for retirement. like it or not, Citaro are the replacement buses. They've to appear somewhere.
3) Airport Svs uses KUBs for a reason. As again, MKIII are due for retirement.
4) 147 can still live with KUBs, in fact most of the time they're well dispatched to the slightly lower demand trips.
5 & 6) KUBs and typical SD's licensed capacity is abt 80. No difference. Simi squeeze more people?
I'd rather SBS dispatch more buses to Svs like 72, 74
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
Seriously?! hmmm if i ve the Senior management email wic i would like to have, i can write…
Hmmm must be buddy buddy with Mark Chua liao so that i can ask him to write in for me to:
1. Have all citaros REMOVED from sv16 and put in ALL JB MKIIIs
2. upgrade 1st 2 buses of sv196e to DDs so that i would not get squashed
3. change sv36 fleet to partial Scanias[not Citaros] and MKIIIs
4. Remove the 4 Scanias from 147 n put one of them to 163 so that the 163 DD go to 147
5. CUT 113 fleet to 5 buses n improve freq for sv62 for OFF PEAK
6. 113 fleet to be downgraded to Scania batch 2 Euro IV to have more standing space so that there will be no more complaints/requests to upgrade 113 to DD fleet due to capacity issues.
That should be my wishlist…
Hope someone is listening…ACx
do you know how many people are taking 113? 113 with 7 buses frequency already very cui. 5 buses , cant imagine.
and btw, what do you mean by cutting fleet and there’ll be no complaints? it should be adding more buses so that there will be no complaints..
and btw, if you are not a frequent commuter of 113, dont suggest fleet cut. It is essential for people living in lorong ah soo area.1 problem to solve 113 problem...make new route
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Kids. I dun wish to feed the trolls, but there's some facts that has to be mentioned.
1) JB MKIII are due for retirement. like it or not, Citaro are the replacement buses. They've to appear somewhere.
3) Airport Svs uses KUBs for a reason. As again, MKIII are due for retirement.
4) 147 can still live with KUBs, in fact most of the time they're well dispatched to the slightly lower demand trips.
5 & 6) KUBs and typical SD's licensed capacity is abt 80. No difference. Simi squeeze more people?
I'd rather SBS dispatch more buses to Svs like 72, 74
dude its a quote from acx. cant quote it that's y i copied. -
the thing that i wrote was a copy and paste message from page 9 or 8
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
dude its a quote from acx. cant quote it that's y i copied.
Whether it's with who I dun care..Why leh?
It's all because so and so demand for this, I make a counter right?
I would have no doubts into 'chap' with more lamenting and countering offers to let ppl figure out what's going on.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Whether it's with who I dun care..Why leh?
It's all because so and so demand for this, I make a counter right?
I would have no doubts into 'chap' with more lamenting and countering offers to let ppl figure out what's going on.
no matter what we are writing here, is just our opinions. you think SBST will follow our orders ? -
They've people looking.
Anyway, what I mentioned are what I noticed. Furthermore, ops issues are only known and restricted to a handful of ppl's knowledge
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Kids. I dun wish to feed the trolls, but there's some facts that has to be mentioned.
1) JB MKIII are due for retirement. like it or not, Citaro are the replacement buses. They've to appear somewhere.
3) Airport Svs uses KUBs for a reason. As again, MKIII are due for retirement.
4) 147 can still live with KUBs, in fact most of the time they're well dispatched to the slightly lower demand trips.
5 & 6) KUBs and typical SD's licensed capacity is abt 80. No difference. Simi squeeze more people?
I'd rather SBS dispatch more buses to Svs like 72, 74
The post was in response to Mr Mark Chua who so called "have assess" to SBST senior management.
sbst275,
1. Citaros are the replacement buses but SBST can actually use the JB MK IIIs for sv16 1st and later redeploy striders/DM3500s for sv16 till the striders/DM3500s retire wic will then have other types of buses available
3. of course i know scanias are used for a reason but the capacity of sv36 cannot meet the demand
4. Would you like to take KUBs in the evenings where they are deployed twds HG CTRL and most cannot board. KUBs on 147 deployment schedule is not fixed
5.6 Fren , a batch 1/2 scania can squeeze more standing pax than EEV which is why more batch 2 scanias are on sv36 during peak and weekends...
No1 is demanding anything as mentioned coz it is a fact, as mentioned t5he post was in reference to Mr Mark Chua claiming to know Senior mgt in SBST,PERIOD
For the above written by me it is 1st hand experience as a user of the services, so dun doubt me & you are right to say people from SBST are monitoring this forum
SBS5010P dun b a smart aleck & question whether of i am frequent user of a particular service, can i ask whether you have taken other area buses and know of the loading factor before you stop spouting illogical requests?!
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
The post was in response to Mr Mark Chua who so called "have assess" to SBST senior management.
sbst275,
1. Citaros are the replacement buses but SBST can actually use the JB MK IIIs for sv16 1st and later redeploy striders/DM3500s for sv16 till the striders/DM3500s retire wic will then have other types of buses available
3. of course i know scanias are used for a reason but the capacity of sv36 cannot meet the demand
4. Would you like to take KUBs in the evenings where they are deployed twds HG CTRL and most cannot board. KUBs on 147 deployment schedule is not fixed
5.6 Fren , a batch 1/2 scania can squeeze more standing pax than EEV which is why more batch 2 scanias are on sv36 during peak and weekends...
No1 is demanding anything as mentioned coz it is a fact, as mentioned t5he post was in reference to Mr Mark Chua claiming to know Senior mgt in SBST,PERIOD
For the above written by me it is 1st hand experience as a user of the services, so dun doubt me & you are right to say people from SBST are monitoring this forum
SBS5010P dun b a smart aleck & question whether of i am frequent user of a particular service, can i ask whether you have taken other area buses and know of the loading factor before you stop spouting illogical requests?!
ACx
look, you said that 113 should have a fleet cut. it had a fleet cut bac kin 2010 before it turned wab. how many more buses do you want to cut!? -
Originally posted by SBS5010P:
look, you said that 113 should have a fleet cut. it had a fleet cut bac kin 2010 before it turned wab. how many more buses do you want to cut!?i stand by wat i said for the buses to be deployed to sv62
5 buses is sufficient, you do not even need the bus to park at the interchange, can just change BCs at interchange
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acx
Actually had wanted to talk abt it.
1) I think 16 being a CBD & Orchard corridor sv, Citaro do a priority of getting them :)
2) I do understand the issue w/ Sv 36, but there's some ops issue of it's looping style ops. I'm trying to find a way to address this problem.
3) The 147 is what I've noticed. heng suay condition. Any case, when they dispatch single decks to a dominatly DD rts, by right if anything were to remember over the 'run number system', I believe there's supposed to be allocated SD slots.
4) The licensed capacity for KUB is fixed at 87, in fact MKIII's is 81. Diff of 6 person afterall even less if there's PIW onboard. There's a licensed capacity issue as there's safety load. This applies to the VO2x these days.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
acx
Actually had wanted to talk abt it.
1) I think 16 being a CBD & Orchard corridor sv, Citaro do a priority of getting them :)
Yah i know but i cannot board the bus evening, weekday night and weekend afternoon coz too crowded & sv16 BCs like citaros...2) I do understand the issue w/ Sv 36, but there's some ops issue of it's looping style ops. I'm trying to find a way to address this problem.
There are frequent gaps during weekend afternoon periods that wait time is more than 20mins...3) The 147 is what I've noticed. heng suay condition. Any case, when they dispatch single decks to a dominatly DD rts, by right if anything were to remember over the 'run number system', I believe there's supposed to be allocated SD slots.
tts y tt day i damn sueh, 2 crowdeds K230UBs then 2659M all in the span of 25mins, no DDs... SIANZ4) The licensed capacity for KUB is fixed at 87, in fact MKIII's is 81. Diff of 6 person afterall even less if there's PIW onboard. There's a licensed capacity issue as there's safety load. This applies to the VO2x these days.
Then 36 sure fail, everyday overshot licensed capacity liao, hahahaha
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
haha
OK..16's weekend condition I'll do a check again. Been hearing of it and figured it's clustered to some time belts.
36's hard to get rid of the problem as long as bus is perputal run system. Was thinking of something else.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
OK..16's weekend condition I'll do a check again. Been hearing of it and figured it's clustered to some time belts.
36's hard to get rid of the problem as long as bus is perputal run system. Was thinking of something else.
sv16 is ok if it's schdeuled fleet is MK IIIs, striders, DM3500
but if citaros, ve loading problem...
Loading time if you would like to check on weekends ia after 1700hrs...
Normally i will hop sv14 & change... SIANZ but if chiongster drive sv14, i dun mind...
actually for sv36, if split to strider/DM3500 with scania weekend should be ok...
The crowd twds town worsens after Parkway Parade bus stop, CANNOT board,
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Kids. I dun wish to feed the trolls, but there's some facts that has to be mentioned.
1) JB MKIII are due for retirement. like it or not, Citaro are the replacement buses. They've to appear somewhere.
3) Airport Svs uses KUBs for a reason. As again, MKIII are due for retirement.
4) 147 can still live with KUBs, in fact most of the time they're well dispatched to the slightly lower demand trips.
5 & 6) KUBs and typical SD's licensed capacity is abt 80. No difference. Simi squeeze more people?
I'd rather SBS dispatch more buses to Svs like 72, 74
72 ah...
no need fleet add. SBS juz need to ____ more x3:
LOOK more.
HEAR more
FEEL more
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Originally posted by sbst275:
North Dist was mentioned... Those are the ERL feeders.They're not considered Island Svs, they're cross harbour svs. Who on earth would want to spend HK$20 to travel within Islands?
The ERL feeders are operated by KMB to enjoy some rebates which franchised operators get
Remember, not 20 dollars but 5 dollar plus due to distance fares...ok, so it's ran by KMB, but it's UNDER MTR. happy? make it clear now...
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Remember, not 20 dollars but 5 dollar plus due to distance fares...ok, so it's ran by KMB, but it's UNDER MTR. happy? make it clear now...
There's no distance fare scheme in Hong Kong