JB-regged MK IV DM3500 to replace MK III on 170/160?

• TIB657M

  5 Sep 11, 11:22

  Originally posted by SBS 1000U:

  Saw many former JB MKIIIs doing east and west side services...

  Meant to temp replace new JB  MK4s which have permed 160/170. Like 7, 14, 16, 32, 33, 65 etc....

• lemon1974

  8 Sep 11, 00:43

  Based on observation, the following should be Sv170 perm. there should be more...need more time to observe.feel free to correct if there is error.

  Edited 8 Sept with input from others.

  SBS Transit Volvo B10M Mark 4 (WA Strider)

  Permitted
  > SBS2685L (ARBP 32) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2686J (BBDEP 33)
  > SBS2687G (ARBP 93) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2688D (BBDEP 7/532*)

  SBS Transit Volvo B10M Mark 4 (DM3500)

  Permitted
  > SBS2690X (ARBP 200)
  > SBS2692R (BBDEP SP) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2696E (BBDEP 33) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2697C (BBDEP SP) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2707H (BBDEP 33)
  > SBS2711U (ARBP 200)
  > SBS2712S (BBDEP 33)
  > SBS2718B (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS2719Z (BBDEP 282)
  > SBS2721R (BBDEP 74/74e*) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2723K (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2724H (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2726C (BBDEP 74)
  > SBS2728Y (BBDEP 175)
  > SBS2731L (BBDEP 506)
  > SBS2733G (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2734D (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2735B (ARBP 95)
  > SBS2736Z (ARBP 132) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2737X (ARBP 111)
  > SBS2738T (BBDEP 284)
  > SBS2742E (ARBP 16)
  > SBS2745Y (ARBP 111)
  > SBS2746U (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2747S (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS2748P (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2750G (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2751D (ARBP 32) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2752B (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2753Z (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS2756R (BBDEP 506) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2757M (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2759H (BBDEP 175) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2761A (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2762Y (ARBP 32)
  > SBS2765P (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2766L (ARBP 16)
  > SBS2767J (BBDEP 151)
  > SBS2768G (ARBP 93) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2772T (ARBP 92)
  > SBS2773R (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2774M (ARBP 273) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2775K (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2779A (BBDEP 33) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2780U (BBDEP 166)
  > SBS2781S (ARBP 16) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2783L (BBDEP 175) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2787B (ARBP 48)
  > SBS2789X (BBDEP SP) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2796A (BBDEP 74/74e*) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2798U (BBDEP 506)
  > SBS2803M (ARBP 123) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2805H (ARBP 191)
  > SBS2806E (BBDEP 285) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2807C (BBDEP 285) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2814G (ARBP 200) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2815D (ARBP 275)
  > SBS2816B (ARBP 92) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2817Z (BBDEP SP) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2818X (ARBP 92)
  > SBS2820M (ARBP 16)
  > SBS2821K (ARBP 92)
  > SBS2822H (ARBP 5) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2823E (ARBP 5) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2824C (BBDEP 175) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2825A (BBDEP 175) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2827U (BBDEP 506) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2828S (ARBP 123)
  > SBS2829P (BBDEP 175) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2830J (ARBP 92)
  > SBS2832D (BBDEP 33) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2834Z (BBDEP 33)
  > SBS2835X (BBDEP 175) Sv170 Perm (maybank ad)
  > SBS2836T (ARBP 32) Sv170 Perm (maybank ad)
  > SBS2837R (BBDEP 175)
  > SBS2838M (BBDEP SP) Sv170 Perm (maybank ad)

• TIB657M

  8 Sep 11, 07:40

  2685L and 2829P were spotted on 170 last week.

• SBS 9256 X

  8 Sep 11, 07:53

  Can we have the proper breakdown of the buses? for both 160 & 170?

• Djmeowmeow

  8 Sep 11, 10:40

  2822 should be also perm 170

   

• SBS7557R

  8 Sep 11, 11:30

  Originally posted by lemon1974:

  Based on observation, the following should be Sv170 perm. there should be more...need more time to observe.feel free to correct if there is error.

  SBS Transit Volvo B10M Mark 4 (WA Strider)

  Permitted
  > SBS2685L (ARBP 32)
  > SBS2686J (BBDEP 33)
  > SBS2687G (ARBP 93) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2688D (BBDEP 7/532*)

  SBS Transit Volvo B10M Mark 4 (DM3500)

  Permitted
  > SBS2690X (ARBP 200)
  > SBS2692R (BBDEP SP) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2696E (BBDEP 33) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2697C (BBDEP SP) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2707H (BBDEP 33)
  > SBS2711U (ARBP 200)
  > SBS2712S (BBDEP 33)
  > SBS2718B (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS2719Z (BBDEP 282)
  > SBS2721R (BBDEP 74/74e*) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2723K (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2724H (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2726C (BBDEP 74)
  > SBS2728Y (BBDEP 175)
  > SBS2731L (BBDEP 506)
  > SBS2733G (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2734D (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2735B (ARBP 95)
  > SBS2736Z (ARBP 132) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2737X (ARBP 111)
  > SBS2738T (BBDEP 284)
  > SBS2742E (ARBP 16)
  > SBS2745Y (ARBP 111)
  > SBS2746U (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2747S (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS2748P (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2750G (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2751D (ARBP 32) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2752B (ARBP 93)
  > SBS2753Z (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS2756R (BBDEP 506) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2757M (ARBP 93)
  > SBS2759H (BBDEP 175) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2761A (ARBP 5) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2762Y (ARBP 32)
  > SBS2765P (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2766L (ARBP 16)
  > SBS2767J (BBDEP 151)
  > SBS2768G (ARBP 93) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2772T (ARBP 92)
  > SBS2773R (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2774M (ARBP 273) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2775K (BBDEP 160)
  > SBS2779A (BBDEP 33) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2780U (BBDEP 166)
  > SBS2781S (ARBP 16) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2783L (BBDEP 175) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2787B (ARBP 48)
  > SBS2789X (BBDEP SP) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2796A (BBDEP 74/74e*) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2798U (BBDEP 506)
  > SBS2803M (ARBP 123) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2805H (ARBP 191)
  > SBS2806E (BBDEP 285) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2807C (BBDEP 285) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2814G (ARBP 200) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2815D (ARBP 275)
  > SBS2816B (ARBP 92) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2817Z (BBDEP SP) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2818X (ARBP 92)
  > SBS2820M (ARBP 16)
  > SBS2821K (ARBP 92)
  > SBS2822H (ARBP 5)
  > SBS2823E (ARBP 5) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2824C (BBDEP 175) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2825A (BBDEP 175)
  > SBS2827U (BBDEP 506) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2828S (ARBP 123)
  > SBS2829P (BBDEP 175)
  > SBS2830J (ARBP 92)
  > SBS2832D (BBDEP 33)
  > SBS2834Z (BBDEP 33)
  > SBS2835X (BBDEP 175) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2836T (ARBP 32) Sv170 Perm
  > SBS2837R (BBDEP 175)
  > SBS2838M (BBDEP SP) Sv170 Perm

  I thought SBS2761A perm 160? 

• SBS7557R

  8 Sep 11, 11:56

  Originally posted by Djmeowmeow:

  2822 should be also perm 170

   

  2825 as well

• lemon1974

  8 Sep 11, 11:58

  Originally posted by SBS7557R:

  I thought SBS2761A perm 160? 

  Oh ya, with the maybank ad.. the list have not updated it to perm Sv160...

• AEW5001

  8 Sep 11, 19:38

  2711
  2712
  2818
  2820
  2828
  2837 (Maybank)

  these few may also be perm 170.

• service_238

  8 Sep 11, 20:56

  There are 20 allocated buses for 160, scheduled for operations is 13 buses. The remaining 7 are spares for 160.
  
  There are 60 allocated buses for 170, scheduled for operations is 41 buses (from sgwiki). The remaining 19 are spares for 170.
  
  Buses spotted on 160 so far: 2719 2723 2724 2726 2733 2734 2746 2748 2750 2752 2757 2761 2762 2765 2767 2773 2775 2780 (2 more left to spot).
  
  Buses spotted on 170 so far: 2685 2687 2692 2696 2697 2711 2712 2721 2736 2751 2753 2756 2759 2768 2774 2779 2781 2783 2789 2796 2798 2803 2805 2806 2807 2814 2815 2816 2817 2818 2820 2821 2822 2823 2824 2825 2827 2828 2829 2832 2834 2835 2836 2837 2838 (15 left to spot)
  
  Not spotted: 2686 2688 2690 2707 2718 2728 2731 2735 2737 2738 2742 2745 2747 2748 2766 2772 2787 (17, of which 2 are for 160, the rest 170)
• SBS 9256 X

  8 Sep 11, 21:31

  Originally posted by service_238:

  There are 20 allocated buses for 160, scheduled for operations is 13 buses. The remaining 7 are spares for 160.
  
  There are 60 allocated buses for 170, scheduled for operations is 41 buses (from sgwiki). The remaining 19 are spares for 170.
  
  Buses spotted on 160 so far: 2719 2723 2724 2726 2733 2734 2746 2748 2750 2752 2757 2761 2762 2765 2767 2773 2775 2780 (2 more left to spot).
  
  Buses spotted on 170 so far: 2685 2687 2692 2696 2697 2711 2712 2721 2736 2751 2753 2756 2759 2768 2774 2779 2781 2783 2789 2796 2798 2803 2805 2806 2807 2814 2815 2816 2817 2818 2820 2821 2822 2823 2824 2825 2827 2828 2829 2832 2834 2835 2836 2837 2838 (15 left to spot)
  
  Not spotted: 2686 2688 2690 2707 2718 2728 2731 2735 2737 2738 2742 2745 2747 2748 2766 2772 2787 (17, of which 2 are for 160, the rest 170)

  So confirmed all this buses are on the following services? SBS 2825 A was involved in an accident so fast on revenue huh?

• Merczrox

  8 Sep 11, 22:56

  I saw 705B,706Z and 795R on svc 5 today.795R has everything removed except for the JB road permit at the front and the 3rd brake light..705B and 706Z still has all the JB speed limit stickers and the black info box at the side.
  
  And noticed something different about 795R's rear.The 2 red lights at the top rear of the bus on both sides at the exterior is using the newer rectangle shaped red lights which can be seen in the MK4s and VO3X Batch 2s.Its no longer the old round shaped lights..

• SBS2601D

  8 Sep 11, 23:04

  A few B10Ms are running around with swopped stuff....that tail-light observation is one of them.

  Swopped rims, swopped radiator grilles etc etc etc.....anything goes!

• SBS7557R

  8 Sep 11, 23:23

  Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:

  So confirmed all this buses are on the following services? SBS 2825 A was involved in an accident so fast on revenue huh?

  SBS2805H was the one involved in an accident. 

• SBS2692R

  8 Sep 11, 23:27

  Originally posted by service_238:

  There are 20 allocated buses for 160, scheduled for operations is 13 buses. The remaining 7 are spares for 160.
  
  There are 60 allocated buses for 170, scheduled for operations is 41 buses (from sgwiki). The remaining 19 are spares for 170.
  
  Buses spotted on 160 so far: 2719 2723 2724 2726 2733 2734 2746 2748 2750 2752 2757 2761 2762 2765 2767 2773 2775 2780 (2 more left to spot).
  
  Buses spotted on 170 so far: 2685 2687 2692 2696 2697 2711 2712 2721 2736 2751 2753 2756 2759 2768 2774 2779 2781 2783 2789 2796 2798 2803 2805 2806 2807 2814 2815 2816 2817 2818 2820 2821 2822 2823 2824 2825 2827 2828 2829 2832 2834 2835 2836 2837 2838 (15 left to spot)
  
  Not spotted: 2686 2688 2690 2707 2718 2728 2731 2735 2737 2738 2742 2745 2747 2748 2766 2772 2787 (17, of which 2 are for 160, the rest 170)

  Spotted 2737 and 2718 a few times on 170X already. 2837R seems to be perm because of its maybank ad!

• buses[IN]gapore!

  8 Sep 11, 23:31

  Originally posted by Merczrox:

  I saw 705B,706Z and 795R on svc 5 today.795R has everything removed except for the JB road permit at the front and the 3rd brake light..705B and 706Z still has all the JB speed limit stickers and the black info box at the side.
  
  And noticed something different about 795R's rear.The 2 red lights at the top rear of the bus on both sides at the exterior is using the newer rectangle shaped red lights which can be seen in the MK4s and VO3X Batch 2s.Its no longer the old round shaped lights..

  
  

  

• azharjj

  8 Sep 11, 23:38

  Originally posted by SBS7557R:

  SBS2805H was the one involved in an accident. 

  
  is it the one parking at BBDEP near PIE, where the exit area is abit dented and left side of the bus' windows shattered ?

• SBS7557R

  9 Sep 11, 00:01

  Originally posted by service_238:

  
   Not spotted: 2686 2688 2690 2707 2718 2728 2731 2735 2737 2738 2742 2745 2747 2748 2766 2772 2787 (17, of which 2 are for 160, the rest 170)

  2748 is already mentioned earlier perm 160. You mean 2830? 

• Djmeowmeow

  9 Sep 11, 01:58

  Originally posted by service_238:

  There are 20 allocated buses for 160, scheduled for operations is 13 buses. The remaining 7 are spares for 160.
  
  There are 60 allocated buses for 170, scheduled for operations is 41 buses (from sgwiki). The remaining 19 are spares for 170.
  
  Buses spotted on 160 so far: 2719 2723 2724 2726 2733 2734 2746 2748 2750 2752 2757 2761 2762 2765 2767 2773 2775 2780 (2 more left to spot).
  
  Buses spotted on 170 so far: 2685 2687 2692 2696 2697 2711 2712 2721 2736 2751 2753 2756 2759 2768 2774 2779 2781 2783 2789 2796 2798 2803 2805 2806 2807 2814 2815 2816 2817 2818 2820 2821 2822 2823 2824 2825 2827 2828 2829 2832 2834 2835 2836 2837 2838 (15 left to spot)
  
  Not spotted: 2686 2688 2690 2707 2718 2728 2731 2735 2737 2738 2742 2745 2747 2748 2766 2772 2787 (17, of which 2 are for 160, the rest 170)

  Spare for 170 can be perm for other services on weekdays? like 96

• SBS 1000U

  11 Sep 11, 23:20

  60 buses for 170

  That's a lot.

  But why did they JB registered some of the Striders??? Might as well all use the MK4 DM3500s.

• lemon1974

  11 Sep 11, 23:54

  Originally posted by service_238:

  There are 20 allocated buses for 160, scheduled for operations is 13 buses. The remaining 7 are spares for 160.
  
  There are 60 allocated buses for 170, scheduled for operations is 41 buses (from sgwiki). The remaining 19 are spares for 170.
  
  Buses spotted on 160 so far: 2719 2723 2724 2726 2733 2734 2746 2748 2750 2752 2757 2761 2762 2765 2767 2773 2775 2780 (2 more left to spot).
  
  Buses spotted on 170 so far: 2685 2687 2692 2696 2697 2711 2712 2721 2736 2751 2753 2756 2759 2768 2774 2779 2781 2783 2789 2796 2798 2803 2805 2806 2807 2814 2815 2816 2817 2818 2820 2821 2822 2823 2824 2825 2827 2828 2829 2832 2834 2835 2836 2837 2838 (15 left to spot)
  
  Not spotted: 2686 2688 2690 2707 2718 2728 2731 2735 2737 2738 2742 2745 2747 2748 2766 2772 2787 (17, of which 2 are for 160, the rest 170)

  spotted 2745 once on Sv170.. and spotted 2766 on Sv170X on friday evening as well.

• AEW5001

  12 Sep 11, 12:49

  Originally posted by service_238:

  There are 20 allocated buses for 160, scheduled for operations is 13 buses. The remaining 7 are spares for 160.
  
  There are 60 allocated buses for 170, scheduled for operations is 41 buses (from sgwiki). The remaining 19 are spares for 170.
  
  Buses spotted on 160 so far: 2719 2723 2724 2726 2733 2734 2746 2748 2750 2752 2757 2761 2762 2765 2767 2773 2775 2780 (2 more left to spot).
  
  Buses spotted on 170 so far: 2685 2687 2692 2696 2697 2711 2712 2721 2736 2751 2753 2756 2759 2768 2774 2779 2781 2783 2789 2796 2798 2803 2805 2806 2807 2814 2815 2816 2817 2818 2820 2821 2822 2823 2824 2825 2827 2828 2829 2832 2834 2835 2836 2837 2838 (15 left to spot)
  
  Not spotted: 2686 2688 2690 2707 2718 2728 2731 2735 2737 2738 2742 2745 2747 2748 2766 2772 2787 (17, of which 2 are for 160, the rest 170)

  2690 perm 170.

  2718 2747 2787 i suspect are SP.

• service_238

  12 Sep 11, 18:23

  There are 20 allocated buses for 160, scheduled for operations is 13 buses. The remaining 7 are spares for 160.
  
  There are 60 allocated buses for 170, scheduled for operations is 41 buses (from sgwiki). The remaining 19 are spares for 170 (some and not all of the spares may have an allocated perm service).
  
  Buses spotted on 160 so far: 2719 2723 2724 2726 2733 2734 2746 2748 2750 2752 2757 2761 2762 2765 2767 2773 2775 2780 (2 more left to spot).
  
  Buses spotted on 170 so far: 2685 2687 2690 2692 2696 2697 2711 2712 2718 2721 2736 2737 2745 2751 2753 2756 2759 2766 2768 2774 2779 2781 2783 2789 2796 2798 2803 2805 2806 2807 2814 2815 2816 2817 2818 2820 2821 2822 2823 2824 2825 2827 2828 2829 2832 2834 2835 2836 2837 2838 (10 left to spot)
  
  Not spotted: 2686 2688 2707 2728 2731 2735 2738 2742 2747 2772 2787 2830 (12, of which 2 are for 160, the rest 170)
  
  Judging from the dates the JB Mk4s get the LPKP permits, the last 2 allocated for 160 are 2772 and one amongst these regos (2687 2707 2728 2731 2742 2747 2787). Do the JB Mk4s still have the fare chart inside the bus?
• AEW5001

  12 Sep 11, 19:40

  Originally posted by service_238:

  There are 20 allocated buses for 160, scheduled for operations is 13 buses. The remaining 7 are spares for 160.
  
  There are 60 allocated buses for 170, scheduled for operations is 41 buses (from sgwiki). The remaining 19 are spares for 170 (some and not all of the spares may have an allocated perm service).
  
  Buses spotted on 160 so far: 2719 2723 2724 2726 2733 2734 2746 2748 2750 2752 2757 2761 2762 2765 2767 2773 2775 2780 (2 more left to spot).
  
  Buses spotted on 170 so far: 2685 2687 2690 2692 2696 2697 2711 2712 2718 2721 2736 2737 2745 2751 2753 2756 2759 2766 2768 2774 2779 2781 2783 2789 2796 2798 2803 2805 2806 2807 2814 2815 2816 2817 2818 2820 2821 2822 2823 2824 2825 2827 2828 2829 2832 2834 2835 2836 2837 2838 (10 left to spot)
  
  Not spotted: 2686 2688 2707 2728 2731 2735 2738 2742 2747 2772 2787 2830 (12, of which 2 are for 160, the rest 170)
  
  Judging from the dates the JB Mk4s get the LPKP permits, the last 2 allocated for 160 are 2772 and one amongst these regos (2687 2707 2728 2731 2742 2747 2787). Do the JB Mk4s still have the fare chart inside the bus?

  2731 is for 170.

  somehow i didn't notice any fare charts for those on 170.

• Acx1688

  12 Sep 11, 21:56

  From daily spotting...
  
  SBS2688D seems to be out of sv7/532, nwadays it's the JB DM doing this run...
  
  ACx